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Heels Down Happy Hour Podcast 78: The Comeback Kids

Heels Down Happy Hour Podcast 78: The Comeback Kids

Everything sucks, so we’re talking to two top equestrians who inspire us with their amazing comeback stories. This week, we’re sharing our favorite outerwear options for the colder seasons and we answer this long puzzling question: why do horses eat sand? Thanks for tuning in.

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Special Guests:

Shannon Dueck has brought multiple horses to the International dressage rings. She has represented Canada at the World Equestrian Games, World Cup Final, Open European Championships and the Pan Am Games, winning an individual silver medal. She currently works with Carl Hester. Shannon also holds a bachelor’s degree in Animal Science and a master’s in Equine Nutrition and Exercise Physiology.

Justine Dutton is a British eventer turned show jumper who is now based out of her farm, Nottinghill Stables, in Ocala, Fla. Justine imports, trains and sells British-bred horses and has competed Advanced level eventing and now currently competes at the grand prix level in show jumping. 


More on what we talked about in this episode:

Justine is in Puerto Rico, so we’re sipping on a festive coquito! | @thenovicechef

The World Equestrian Center’s winter schedule, and their peel off from the USEF is certainly going to be interesting. | @horsesport

Why do some horses eat sand? Ellie has answers. | @EQUUS

Horses may not love us as much as we love them, science says. | @NYP

Thank you to everyone who continues to support us on Patreon! | @patreon

Jess and Ellie share their favorite layering tips for the upcoming winter riding season. | @heelsdown

Shannon Dueck joins us to talk about how horses helped her get through breast cancer. | @SmartPak

Justine Dutton shares how she pivoted from eventing to show jumping, and how she got her confidence back. | @heelsdown

See Also

Mail bag: “What has been your experience with sending a horse to a trainer?”

Have a question for us? Send us an email at hello[at]heelsdownmedia.com or join our Facebook group: the Heels Down Happy Hour Podcast Lounge.


More about our hosts:

Jessica Payne is a 32-year-old international event rider who is rarely seen without her long-haired chihuahua under her arm. She was born in London, Ontario but grew up in Franklin, Tenn. and graduated from Auburn University with a degree in Animal Science. She once lost the tip of her pinky finger clipping her 4* horse, and husband Doug says she can “talk to anyone including a wall….and they will like it!”

Ellie Woznica is a 22-year-old freelance book designer and horse trainer because she couldn’t choose which career to pursue and her mom said she wouldn’t make the decision for her. She grew up showing the hunters and jumpers, but in university, she learned to ride western and fell in love with reining. 

Justine Griffin is an award winning 32-year-old journalist who has written about everything from horses to high profile CEOs to her ovaries. (She donated her eggs once.) Two things she loves the most? Whippet puppies and cheese. Justine is a firm believer in unicorns and feminism. So take everything she says with a grain of salt.


Many thanks to our sponsors this week: Ecogold, Arena Saddles, and FLAIR Strips.

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